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How big of a scandal is President Trump’s firing of FBI Director James Comey? The FiveThirtyEight Politics podcast crew, senior writer Perry Bacon Jr. and Brandon Rottinghaus, a professor of political science at the University of Houston who studies political scandals, try to figure that out. The team also discusses how the recent resignation of Census Bureau Director John Thompson could affect preparations for the 2020 census.

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